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Monday, 04 September 2006

We deeply regret to add this hypocrite earlier to the Scholars of Batil Section. But now it's time to expose this mouthpiece for the F.B.I. since he has taken it publicly to attack true and sincere Islamic Revivalist who have Islam on their agenda.

He is well-known for his first task of being the ameer of Indonesian Muslim Community Center in Astoria. But little was known of how Islamic he kept that community. Under his amara, the youths were given access to guitars and drums to play in the basment of the masjid. While one would pray salaat, he/she can hear music being played. This is violating the sanctity of the masjid. This was witnessed not by one but many of the I.T.S. members. The I.T.S. members appraoched the guardian and asked as to why this was going on. Why are the youths allowed to play haraam musical instruments in the masjid. The guardian responded that "Since the youth stay outside and do haraam activities anyway, why not let them inside the masjid and do it, so at least keep them close to the masjid." For such actions like this, we hold Shamsi Ali responsible for corrupting the Muslim Youths mentality.

If that's not far fetched, then what about the free-mixing environment of the Indonesian masjid itself? While the I.T.S. brothers were praying salaat ul-Eid couple of years ago, they were invited to eat some food with the community. After the salaat, when they went to meet with the community and eat, to their surprise they were shocked to see so many Muslims, young and old who did not even pray the salaat ul-Eid, who were sitting downstairs and free-mixing with the oppssite genders as if it were some sort of club. Then came the cheek kisses that they traded with the non-mahram opposite gender. This was really shocking to see such events taking place within a Muslim community. It makes one wonder, where is the sharee'ah implemented in the house of Allah. Where is commanding the good, and forbidding the evil? Under Shamsi Ali's amaraship all these behaviors were allowed to go on. WHY? Because Shamsi Ali is a moderate Uncle Sam Muslim who wants the Muslim community to imitate the west. To further provide evidenes of his reluctance to implement basic sharee'ah rules inside the masjid, one would need to go to JMC Muslim Center and see how the Muslim community reacted when they found out Shamsi Ali's view of free-mixing. The community was about to split apart when they saw the true face of Shamsi Ali because Shamsi Ali does not practice the hukm on free-mixing in the masjid vicinity.

Shamsi Ali is a F.B.I. mouthpiece who enjoy the company of the kuffar and take them as awliyah.

"O you who believe! Take not My enemies and your enemies (i.e. disbelievers and polytheists,
etc.) as friends, showing affection towards them, while they have disbelieved in what has come
to you of the truth...
"( 60:1)

He is a hafiz of Qur'an who knows not of what the verses mean. He wants to make the Muslim Community head towards the "American Dream", while the true Muslims want Islam.

"Lo! You are the ones who love them but they love you not, and you believe in all the Scriptures [i.e. you believe in the Taurāt (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), while they disbelieve in your Book, the Qur'ān]. And when they meet you, they say, "We believe". But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: "Perish in your rage. Certainly, Allāh knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets)." (Aali Imran 3:119)

He is the main "muslim" adovcate of interfaith dialogue which islam prohibits since there is no other Deen that is accepted by Allah other than Islam.

"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islām, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers. "(3:85)

Imam Shamsi ali is leading the Muslm community towards destruction by advocating tolerance towards the evil actions of the kuffar instead of teaching the fundamentals of commanding the good and forbidding the evil.

Here is an article written about The Islamic Thinkers Society on Daily News titled: Root out the radicals(Refutation of his attacks on Islamic revivalists coming soon...)

Root out the radicals


As authorities continue to uncover the full magnitude of the London airline terror plot, the world now knows what a huge problem the extremist view of Islam is in the United Kingdom.

Now - before a similarly horrific plot emerges here - it is time America and New York City faced up to a blunt reality: Muslim radicalism is a serious threat right here in our midst. No, it may not be as bad here as in Britain, where 51% of Muslims age 18 to 24 believe the 9/11 attacks were an American/Israeli conspiracy. But the danger is real. And if we ignore that reality rather than confronting it head-on, it could well fuel violence against innocent Americans.

Yes, the vast majority of American Muslims and their spiritual leaders want the best for their families, their city and their country. That's because Islam is a religion of peace.

But at the same time, there are local preachers who distort our faith to foment hatred of America. There are people who, rather than encouraging young people to build better lives for themselves, irresponsibly egg them on toward an angry and narrow view of the future. I see this danger every day. As a scholar of the Koran and community leader in New York, I work closely with hundreds of Muslim teenagers. To a person, they have typical American dreams of becoming doctors, businesspeople, baseball players, you name it.

But I know Muslim young people well enough to understand that some who are susceptible to dangerous ideologies could turn in the wrong direction.

For instance, the Islamic Thinkers Society - a small organization based in Queens - routinely chooses anger over constructive action. It's thought to be an American offshoot of the London-based Al-Muhajiroun, which is infamous for its conference "The Magnificent 19," praising those who carried out the 9/11 attacks.

In February, the society disrupted a peaceful demonstration I had helped organize to protest the Danish cartoons that depicted the Prophet Muhammed as a terrorist. They tried to dominate the otherwise peaceful event with their own radical banners and slogans.

Also this year, a local Shi'a rally against terrorism and injustice was violently interrupted by the group. The mischief mongers manhandled a religious scholar, calling him an infidel, and spread materials mocking Islamic jurists they consider too moderate.

Just look at their Web site,, to see some of what's produced by the group: words and images that feed fanatical anti-American vitriol.

In New York, there may be only very small numbers who sympathize with Al Qaeda or any other terrorist or radical elements. But it takes only small numbers to do terrible things.

Now it is time for leaders in the Muslim community to take five crucial steps:

1. Speak clearly and directly to those who foment hatred or make any excuse whatsoever for those who commit terrorist acts, making clear that we know what they are doing and will not tolerate it.

2. Isolate radical groups from having access to our community centers. And when we confront radicalism on the Internet or in other forms, we must spotlight it.

3. Promote our own moderate and balanced youth activities as constructive alternatives.

4. Organize seminars that tell young people the serious danger of radical Islamist ideology.

5. Since many of the most disaffected youth are not related to any mosque or center, urge parents to talk to their children directly. None of this is to suggest that Muslim Americans must agree with all American policy or support the Bush administration. To the contrary, healthy and vigorous dissent is one of the best ways to channel people's real anger and frustration.

But unless and until New York City's Muslim community is willing to reject violence and the ideology that fuels it, there will be a pall of suspicion hanging over our community - and with good reason.

Ali is deputy imam of the Islamic Cultural Center of New York and director of the Jamaican Muslim Center in Queens.

Originally published on September 2, 2006

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